Alelou wrote:Putaro's evidence that T'Pol is not ignorant of sex but actually sophisticated about it makes sense -- except that it doesn't jibe with the mating every seven years thing and her lack of interest in recreational activities of that kind on Risa. I'm thinking that T'Pol can have the kind of worldly, informed view about sexual liaisons or interspecies couples that anyone who's well-read or well-informed can have (or think they have), without actually ever having had any.
This is not to say that any particular fic couldn't sell me on the idea that she's actually quite experienced. But, Putaro, even you haven't written T'Pol as experienced in your series, have you?
Her simply wanting a physical relationship with Trip also doesn't jibe with the jealousy we see from her quite continually in the series, right from season one. I am with Kotik on that point, even if I don't despair over Trip's manliness as quickly as he does.
I think a man who's really secure in his masculinity can let himself lose some face without freaking out. Yes, they pushed that right to the limit and beyond on Enterprise, but.. etc
I agree and I would add one thing.
Often (I think that this is due to the fact that this is a particularly attractive issue) it has been discussed and is discussed about the
experience of T'Pol. I think, without much fear of being taken wrong, that women consider in general (without exaggerating, of course) a good thing they can give themselves to the man they love (or think they love), giving really to him everything of themselves. On the other hand, it is useless to deny that masculinity is scarcely able to prescind from the pride of possession, and possession means exactly possession. Perhaps it is wrong, maybe not, but I think it is a real fact, which is part of life.
Now, to return to the
experience of T'Pol ...
What do they have, these notations I made, to do with the
experience of T'Pol? Well, they have to do with it, my friends, oh yes, because it is very clear (though maybe someone will want to deny) that a very vast part of the charm that emanates from the relationship between Trip and T'Pol, stems from the perception that males and females have of what I said, a truth which, oddly enough, today appears often hard to be accepted.
Oddly enough, I said, because in order to be advanced, it is not strictly necessary to deny our ancestral way of being.
In short, which
experience had T'Pol?
In the show she says everything and its opposite, so frankly I do not think from her words you can obtain useful information about her e
xperience.
Where, then, you can find some clue? Well, but in her behavior, by golly!
My friends ... but, honestly, do not you think that when it comes to matters of love, T'Pol behaves like an ignorant teenager (in a good way), shaking (yeah, just so!) and insecure?
Power of the script, made on purpose or not!