T'Pol's Clothing

[WarpGirl]

OK first of all, it wasn't the "green tinge" I had a problem with. Sarek's and Spock's makeup was very well done. My problem was that the "bronze" coloring was obviously fake. It didn't look like she was a desert dweller, she looked like she spent hours in a tanning bed and a spray booth. Besides she hadn't lived on Vulcan for any real amount of time for a while. I think that living on Earth, and later the artificial light would have made her complexsion lighter over time. I just didn't think the makeup was well done. Especially since JB is so beautiful!!!!!

Secondly, I thought most of the shades of purple she wore were way too warm, considering she's supposed to have a "green tinge" the Jumpsuit made her look too green. JMO.

Personally I thought Rigil's last JB/T'Pol avatar was so beautiful I wish they had done her makeup more like that, of course with a slight "green tinge".

[Asso]

Um, I think that "fake tan" was meant to give T'Pol the complexion of a desert dweller, while giving her a greenish hue due to the color of her blood, the way we glow pink. It isn't meant to look healthy or normal by human standards.

One more reminder that Vulcans aren't just humans with pointed ears.

Right. Actually, they are the Humans who are Vulcans with rounded ears.

[Rigil Kent]

Uh ... what?

OK first of all, it wasn't the "green tinge" I had a problem with. Sarek's and Spock's makeup was very well done. My problem was that the "bronze" coloring was obviously fake. It didn't look like she was a desert dweller, she looked like she spent hours in a tanning bed and a spray booth. Besides she hadn't lived on Vulcan for any real amount of time for a while. I think that living on Earth, and later the artificial light would have made her complexsion lighter over time. I just didn't think the makeup was well done. Especially since JB is so beautiful!!!!!

Secondly, I thought most of the shades of purple she wore were way too warm, considering she's supposed to have a "green tinge" the Jumpsuit made her look too green. JMO.

I don't think we're going to remotely agree on this fact. I thought she looked fantastic in season 3 and 4, and felt that the bronzing was long overdue.

And I totally disagree with you about the shades of purple she wore. I thought she looked fantastic in the wedding dress.

[WarpGirl]

Did I say I didn't like her Wedding Dress?????????? If I did, I did not mean too. That shade of purple was cooler than the jumpsuit she wore. And it did look very beautiful.

Did I say the fact she was tan was a problem???????? I meant that the tan did not look natural, I could tell it was a fake. There are ways to make a fake tan look natural.

And I don't expect anyone to agree with what I say around here. But your sig says you'll defend to the death for my right to say it.

[honeybee]

Well, some of us see the show through a lens of liking it and appreciating it, and some of us don't, Rigil. I didn't care for the catsuit of Season 1 & 2, but I always thought JB looked beautiful in her civilian garb whatever the season.

I thought she looked especially fantastic in Civilization in Season One, although that wasn't Vulcan garb of any kind.

[WarpGirl]

I thought she looked especially fantastic in Civilization in Season One, although that wasn't Vulcan garb of any kind.

I concur vehemently!

[Aikiweezie]

There are ways to make a fake tan look natural.

As a pale, pasty midwestern person, I WISH fake tans looked natural. Even when I had a great airbrush tan that cost me $25 my ankles ended up blotchy. At least Jolene wasn't orange like most fake tanners are.

I can't bring myself to criticize her appearance at all. I love all her clothes, I WISH I had a body like that, and a face so pretty she could pull off the Vulcan hair style.

[WarpGirl]

I wasn't criticizing JB, I was criticizing the person who sprayed her tan.

[Rigil Kent]

Truthfully, I've never seen anyone with a spray-on tan that didn't look like they had ... well ... a spray-on tan. So I just rolled with it. Besides, they did far worse later ("Terra Prime" where T'Pol apparently paid a visit to the manicurist after her baby died.)

I didn't care for the catsuit of Season 1 & 2

Yeah, that carpet suit was godawful ugly. Although I must admit, I thought the make-up they gave her in "Strange New Worlds" was phenom because she actually looked a little more alien than normal.

I thought she looked especially fantastic in Civilization in Season One, although that wasn't Vulcan garb of any kind.

Is that the one where she had fake long hair? Does it really count since they were using local garb?

[honeybee]

I don't know if it "counts", since it wasn't her own sartorial choice. But the colors did look great on her.

[Rigil Kent]

Heh. You used "sartorial" in a word.

[Aikiweezie]

Besides, they did far worse later ("Terra Prime" where T'Pol apparently paid a visit to the manicurist after her baby died.)

I just looked at Trek Core Screen caps, though, and she had the long nails & manicure throughout Demons & Terra Prime! How she managed to not break a nail, I'll never know!!!!

She has a long french manicure in several episodes. I think that is very un-Vulcan.

[WarpGirl]

Well I didn't say a spray tan could look natural, I said a "fake tan" could. They used to do it extremely well back in the 50's and 60's in hollywood. Case in point, Yavonne DeCarlo. She had fake tans for certain roles that looked better than her natual pale skin. Same thing for Debra Paget. I definitely think T'Pol should be a little tan and "green."

And you're right Rigil there were episodes where JB looked like an alien Goddess, but there were just as many episodes where it looked really fake.

Don't get me started on the nails, please don't. I don't think anyone can pull off acrylics. And I've gotten them done myself.

[Aquarius]

Me and my acrylics disagree with you.

As for the continuity with her nails, JB may very well have had a shoot or appearance or audition that necessitated looking finished and put together, including her nails. They probably didn't think fans would blow a gasket over it.

Re Marc Lenard and Leonard Nimoy's makeup, JB is naturally a different complexion than they are, so obviously they're going to make different choices for her.

[Aikiweezie]

As for the continuity with her nails, JB may very well have had a shoot or appearance or audition that necessitated looking finished and put together, including her nails. They probably didn't think fans would blow a gasket over it.

Maybe we should cross-reference under the "You know you're a Trek fan when" thread!
"You know you're a Trek fan when" you notice minutae like this! No wonder people make fun of us.