WarpGirl wrote:Rigil doesn't like Koss because he forced the marriage...
No, Rigil doesn't like Koss because he was central to a poorly conceived, poorly written subplot clearly intended by the showrunners to forestall writing an actual Human/Vulcan relationship with Trip/T'Pol. More than anything else, Rigil (who is inexplicably speaking of himself in the 3rd Person - he blames it on being very tired from work)
loathes the standard issue "will they, won't they" dross that makes up something like 95% of television male-female relationships and, after all the steps taken to get to the point TnT had reached at the end of season 3, the marriage plot felt like a contrived mess that turned them both into abject morons. Rigil also dislikes Trip's transfer to Columbia and T'Pol's sudden "she got religion and now has no time to even be around Trip" elements of season 4 for much the same reason, and this is why Rigil ultimately prefers season 3 over season 4.
Rigil (who is still speaking in 3rd Person) tends to agree with
eKayak that we've put more discussion and thought into the entire marriage subplot in the last two or three days than the showrunners even bothered with. They clearly wanted a delaying tactic and did not bother actually thinking it through. Or if they did, then something hit the cutting room floor that would have been really nice to know.
He seems to think Koss was going to force a lot of other things too.
No, I said he
could force things, not that he was going to. If you also read my other remarks, you'll note that I don't have a particularly high opinion of Koss and have said he
could go in that direction, even though he remained too much of a blank slate to say yeah or nay. I'm pretty sure I went out of my way several times to reiterate that we had no actual data regarding Koss (again, blank slate) to do more than theorize and the forcing T'Pol to do certain things was simply one possibility. Please don't assume you know what I'm thinking.
so the only thing I can come up with was the set up was made by several parties for political reasons
To which I can simply inquire (again) what does Koss' family get out of this arrangement? Now, their name is attached to the borderline criminal (in Vulcan eyes) T'Pol who so clearly likes humans that she [A] decided to stay on their ship rather than come home at the appointed time for her marriage, [B] brought one home to meet her mother and [C] violated marriage tradition (again!) by returning to the human ship rather than spend the one year with her new husband. There are no benefits to this arrangement for them, only drawbacks. So again, there is no real logic to this marriage when you actually give it some thought and any presumptions on our part (they're Syrannites, for example) are simply wild guesses.
When it didn't he let T'Pol go no hard feelings. I say no hard feelings because they were both very cordial to each other. I don't think T'Pol felt anything for Koss, like or loathing.
Which is pretty much how I approached the whole thing back in
Endeavour: Vigrid. T'Pol received a missive from Koss regarding the dissolution of their marriage and there were no hard feelings (for lack of a better term.) Trip hates his guts, but Koss isn't even a blip on T'Pol's radar. That's in the past and she's moving on with the mate of her choice.
Koss' father was prominent but I doubt he ever met a human before Trip, so his one line about him being T'Pol's "human friend" doesn't prove to me he held the same attitude of the VHC.
For me, it wasn't the term so much as Koss' tone. We've already gone over this, I think. You saw nothing wrong with it, whereas I saw him being condescending and looking down on Trip for
being human. Different strokes and all that.