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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:20 pm

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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Snorpenbass » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:39 pm

...this reminds me, I've heard plenty of fans state and read plenty of fanfics where it's mentioned in the writer's notes that the first official human/Vulcan couple was Sarek/Amanda and that he was the first human/Vulcan hybrid, but where exactly *is* that said, canonically (discounting games and books, that is)? I'm pretty sure the original series only had Spock half-human with no further real deliberation (and occasional source of slight over-acting ;) ), so where is that from?
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:45 pm

Maybe they mean "official" as in married. Canonically TnT never married. In fact they broke up.
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Distracted » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:56 pm

Or it could mean that the writers of Enterprise didn't give a rat's ass about continuity. Take your pick. :roll:
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:58 pm

But Dis we've got to be good and follow the rules. :tears: But yeah the B's make me mad.
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Kotik » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:23 pm

WarpGirl wrote:Maybe they mean "official" as in married. Canonically TnT never married. In fact they broke up.


Canonically they didn't break up either. *the_abomination* cannot be canon as it was a holo simulation, not something that really happened.

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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:30 pm

Oh god not again. Okay can we agree that as far as the ST historians know they broke up.

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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Kevin Thomas Riley » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:55 pm

It was never stated that Spock was the first Vulcan/Human hybrid. :spock: That's fanon. Much like the fan "fact" that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet.
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:02 pm

Oh well, with so many retcons it's hard to keep track.
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Silverbullet » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:53 am

Apparently amanda and sarek wre not the first Human Vulcan couple nor were Trip and T'Pol

In e2 T'Pol said that Humans and Vulcans have never successfuly had a child. That meant there had been other Vulcan /Human couples earlier that Enterprise.

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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:01 am

That doesn't mean they married or bonded. It just means that people attempted relationships. Or it could just mean that some Vulcans needed partners because they couldn't get back home during their Pon Farrs. The whole thing is very vague.

PS Spock was the first Vulcan accepted in Starfleet ACADEMY!
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Kotik » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:34 am

Except, that Spock wasn't a Vulcan. He was a hybrid.

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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:58 am

He considers himself a Vulcan, he's identified as a Vulcan, but more to the point, he's a Vulcan citizen. Therefore even if a human born on Vulcan, and granted Vulcan citizenship, went to the academy before him, they would be the first "Vulcan" at SF academy.

But in the end it doesn't matter because canonically they never said Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet, he was the first Vulcan accepted into the academy. There is a difference.
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby Kevin Thomas Riley » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:40 pm

I'm not even sure that Spock was the first canonically (half-)Vulcan in Starfleet Academy? Have a canon source for that?
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Re: Wonky Science: Hybrids in Startrek

Postby WarpGirl » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:44 pm

Yeah hold on and let me find it.
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