Natalie "facts"

[WarpGirl]

I'm hoping this is all a joke, because quite honestly, Trip doesn't seem like the porn type to me. Malcolm... Travis... Well it wouldn't shock me. But Trip, for some reason as much as he attracts, and sometimes accepts attention. He is so sweet and a gentleman.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

Yep, I think Aquarius has posted that one a couple of times.

Hrrm, I have done that too...

[Alelou]

I'm hoping this is all a joke, because quite honestly, Trip doesn't seem like the porn type to me. Malcolm... Travis... Well it wouldn't shock me. But Trip, for some reason as much as he attracts, and sometimes accepts attention. He is so sweet and a gentleman.

It's a joke.

However, I wouldn't say that Trip doesn't seem like the porn type to me.

Of course, I'm also sitting here trying to imagine a guy who isn't the porn type...

But I know WG will assure me that I'm wrong.

(Guys? What do you think?)

[WarpGirl]

Did I do something to upset you Alelou? Because if I did I appologize.

[Alelou]

?? Nope, not at all. I just think you're generally down on anything to do with sex. (If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.)

[WarpGirl]

No I am not down on sex. I believe that is a wonderful gift, if used in a proper way. I also think if used improperly it is terribly destructive. But I have to say I was a little hurt.

[Alelou]

Then I apologize.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

(Guys? What do you think?)

I have yet to meet a guy who isn't a "porn type". And if someone tells you he isn't, he's probably lying. That doesn't mean guys are consumed by it, but sexually guys are generally more "visual". And we can be perfectly sweet and be gentlemen nonetheless.

[Silverbullet]

Alelou, depends on ones age. As a young Man I loked at it. Even when in Denmark attended "Live shows" with some guys while we were out drinking. You wouldn't want to knowwhat kind. We were a little snockered.

But now, it wouldn't do me a lick of good so I don't look at even a playboy any more not even for the editorial content.

SB

[Distracted]

Porn's not just a guy thing if you include written porn in there... like Lauren Hamilton's stuff or the more explicit of the dime store "romance" novels. It may be words and not pictures but it's just as much porn as the picture versions. And women are the predominant audience for that. IMO, any woman who's ever read something like that has no cause to look down on any guy who likes to look at dirty pictures. Men are primarily visual. Women respond more to words. But it's the exact same thing in my book.

[justTripn]

I think D's right. Written or visual, it's just as naughty. Of course I totally disapprove of pornography . . . but my evil identical twin, I'm afraid she has lower moral standards.

[Distracted]

What a coincidence. I have an evil twin, too.

[Alelou]

Me too. Actually, I have two evil triplets... One reads stuff, and the other watches R-rated movies that are more of a turn-on than typical porn (which mostly just strikes me as very tedious). That one also has a picture of Connor Trinneer naked on a poster that somebody posted on this very site....

[Rigil Kent]

I'm hoping this is all a joke, because quite honestly, Trip doesn't seem like the porn type to me.

Jeez. Lighten up a little. Of course it was a joke.

He is so sweet and a gentleman.

Uh ... yeah. Do you remember how much of a jackass he was to T'Pol early in the series? That's not the behavior of a "gentleman." I think you've got an idealized view of Trip that doesn't entirely fit the canon portrayal of him. A "gentleman" isn't actively trying to have one-night stands with pretty aliens ("Two Days, Two Nights"), or want to eradicate an entire species because some extremists of that species murdered his sister (the Xindi arc.) Yeah, he's ultimately a good guy, but saying he's sweet doesn't entirely track with the canon portrayal. He can be as much of an asshole as the next human.

And like KTR said: any guy who tells you he doesn't or hasn't looked at porn is a liar.

[starwatcher]

Gotta say that I agree with KTR and Rigil on this one: I don't know a single guy who hasn't at least looked at porn at some time in his life. But then, you could include a whole bunch of women in that too.....

As for my view of Natalie... I always imagined her as a blonde, I must say. Not sure about the status of their relationship though - I don't have anything particularly against her, and I didn't get the sense that she was particularly nasty and/or diabolical. My sense was that she just felt that the relationship had run its course and she wanted to break it off in the least painful way. But then, its been a while since I saw Season 1 so perhaps I could be wrong!