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technical question for a story
Here is the problem:
We have a planet with a civilization about equivalent to earth at the turn of the 19th to the 20th century. So they have steam power and are starting on electricity and gasoline engines. There is telegraph (early radio). At least one native of this planet knows that aliens from other worlds exist - there was a limited first contact. And this person knows that a group of (good) aliens patrol their system to keep other (bad) aliens from exploiting them. The timing of these patrols is unknown. This native discovers that the (bad) aliens are back and wants to contact the (good) aliens to get help. How can the native send a distress message?
One idea I have been kicking around which seems more and more improbable: a large forest burn made in the shape of letters spelling out a message that can be seen from space.
Another suggestion someone had: block up the crater of an active volcano so that it explodes, bringing the (good) aliens close enough to investigate this natural disaster, so some sort of other signal can be made to encourage them to make contact.
Some of you will probably be asking what I have been smoking, LOL. Well, my brain just spontaneously combusts from time to time (from capacity overuse, or lack of use, or passed the expiration date) and that is the smoke you are seeing. So if you think a message can't be sent by this beleaguered planet, just tell me and I will arrange something obvious like a (bad) alien task force of military ships that the (good) aliens can't miss.
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We have a planet with a civilization about equivalent to earth at the turn of the 19th to the 20th century. So they have steam power and are starting on electricity and gasoline engines. There is telegraph (early radio). At least one native of this planet knows that aliens from other worlds exist - there was a limited first contact. And this person knows that a group of (good) aliens patrol their system to keep other (bad) aliens from exploiting them. The timing of these patrols is unknown. This native discovers that the (bad) aliens are back and wants to contact the (good) aliens to get help. How can the native send a distress message?
One idea I have been kicking around which seems more and more improbable: a large forest burn made in the shape of letters spelling out a message that can be seen from space.
Another suggestion someone had: block up the crater of an active volcano so that it explodes, bringing the (good) aliens close enough to investigate this natural disaster, so some sort of other signal can be made to encourage them to make contact.
Some of you will probably be asking what I have been smoking, LOL. Well, my brain just spontaneously combusts from time to time (from capacity overuse, or lack of use, or passed the expiration date) and that is the smoke you are seeing. So if you think a message can't be sent by this beleaguered planet, just tell me and I will arrange something obvious like a (bad) alien task force of military ships that the (good) aliens can't miss.
Thanks,
Linda
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Re: technical question for a story
If this native is somehow already privileged to know all this, isn't it possible he or she might have some discreet ongoing way to contact/be contacted? Like, the captain just can't resist dropping in for a cuppa once in awhile?
But your last non-smoking version sounds very reasonable too.
But your last non-smoking version sounds very reasonable too.
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Re: technical question for a story
Well, I COULD invent something like that, but since this was based on a canon episode which did not suggest any such contact arrangement, I'm kinda reluctant to do that. But, it is a good option that I did not think of... Better than the forest burn idea, LOL.
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Re: technical question for a story
Mh...
I think an unexpected "natural" event could awake the interest of the aliens (good aliens).
I think an unexpected "natural" event could awake the interest of the aliens (good aliens).
Well yes. I continue to write. And on Fanfiction.Net, for those who want, it is possible to cast a glance at my latest efforts. We arrived to
The Ears of the Elves, chapter Forty-four
And here is the beginning of the whole story.
But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
The Ears of the Elves, chapter Forty-four
And here is the beginning of the whole story.
But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
Re: technical question for a story
I think drawing some lines in the desert might be safer than possibly burning down a forest or causing a volcanic eruption.
I think he'd have more luck trying to transmit a telegraphic message into space by using a regular pattern the good aliens' computer might pick up on, but he would need to find a way to focus the signal (so a type of radio telescope capable of transmitting the signal, and a lot of electricity to make the signal strong enough to make it out of the atmosphere.
Of course no matter what he does, he'll probably draw the attention of the bad aliens as well.
I think he'd have more luck trying to transmit a telegraphic message into space by using a regular pattern the good aliens' computer might pick up on, but he would need to find a way to focus the signal (so a type of radio telescope capable of transmitting the signal, and a lot of electricity to make the signal strong enough to make it out of the atmosphere.
Of course no matter what he does, he'll probably draw the attention of the bad aliens as well.
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^ In that case... like why not try to capture a bad alien and/or infiltrate into a bad alien ship and use their subspace transmission devices or whatever they got.
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But ... and if was this planet not so evolved?
Well yes. I continue to write. And on Fanfiction.Net, for those who want, it is possible to cast a glance at my latest efforts. We arrived to
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But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
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Re: technical question for a story
It would depend on how far the message had to travel and whether the good aliens would be expected to be looking at the planet and not outward while on patrol. I'm more inclined to like CX's suggestion than to have someone rely on crop circles or burning down the forest for communication. What you need is a really potent ham radio and an amplifier... or maybe a radio transmitter strong enough to reach orbit where the good aliens are patrolling. Perhaps the main character knows of such a transmitter... maybe scientists are working on one strong enough to cross continents... and your hero needs to enlist the help of one of the scientists to change the transmitter's direction for a few moments every day when no one else is transmitting to send a coded message into orbit... something that only the good aliens would recognise as anything but an accidental occurence.
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I repeat...and if is this planet not so evolved?
Well yes. I continue to write. And on Fanfiction.Net, for those who want, it is possible to cast a glance at my latest efforts. We arrived to
The Ears of the Elves, chapter Forty-four
And here is the beginning of the whole story.
But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
The Ears of the Elves, chapter Forty-four
And here is the beginning of the whole story.
But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
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Re: technical question for a story
I'm not following what you're asking, Asso. Please clarify.
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Re: technical question for a story
Linda wrote:Here is the problem:
We have a planet with a civilization about equivalent to earth at the turn of the 19th to the 20th century. So they have steam power and are starting on electricity and gasoline engines. There is telegraph (early radio). At least one native of this planet knows that aliens from other worlds exist - there was a limited first contact. And this person knows that a group of (good) aliens patrol their system to keep other (bad) aliens from exploiting them. The timing of these patrols is unknown. This native discovers that the (bad) aliens are back and wants to contact the (good) aliens to get help. How can the native send a distress message?
CX wrote:I think drawing some lines in the desert might be safer than possibly burning down a forest or causing a volcanic eruption.
I think he'd have more luck trying to transmit a telegraphic message into space by using a regular pattern the good aliens' computer might pick up on, but he would need to find a way to focus the signal (so a type of radio telescope capable of transmitting the signal, and a lot of electricity to make the signal strong enough to make it out of the atmosphere.
Of course no matter what he does, he'll probably draw the attention of the bad aliens as well.
Too evolved and too Human.
IMO it should be more naive.
Well yes. I continue to write. And on Fanfiction.Net, for those who want, it is possible to cast a glance at my latest efforts. We arrived to
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And here is the beginning of the whole story.
But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
The Ears of the Elves, chapter Forty-four
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Re: technical question for a story
I think Linda's actually working from a canon episode that shows this planet at a certain level of scientific development and very human-like. I don't think she made that part up, so she's stuck with it. Am I right, Linda?
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How is it too evolved? They have telegraphs, which can produce a recognizable repeatable signal. The trick would be producing a signal strong enough to escape the planet's atmosphere.
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When I say "too human", I don't want to say not "human-like".
Anyway, you're right, Dis.
What do you want to mean, Linda?
Anyway, you're right, Dis.
What do you want to mean, Linda?
Well yes. I continue to write. And on Fanfiction.Net, for those who want, it is possible to cast a glance at my latest efforts. We arrived to
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But, I must say, you could also find something else on Fanfiction.net written by me. If you want.
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Now I'm really trying to guess which episode this is and coming up blank...
I'm tired. I've never seen a client who could change the same things back and forth so many times.
I'm tired. I've never seen a client who could change the same things back and forth so many times.
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