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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby blacknblue » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:16 am

None of us have room to complain, considering the slow rate of updates lately. Sad
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby Rigil Kent » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:17 am

Well, I'm also attempting to convince my Muse to let me write something other than Endeavour stuff as well, perhaps on the offhand chance I could get published (and thus, paid) for my efforts...
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby blacknblue » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:20 am

Arise, go forth, and conquer!
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby hth2k » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:26 am

Thought it would give you a laugh.

Hey getting published would be great!

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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby stary eyes » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:14 am

I can appreciate how much time and effort goes into a project like the Endeavour series. I went back to Elysium and reread the entire series. I am amazed of how will the stories all fit together. You work is truly a page turner. When I saw the future stories you have planned - I felt like Christmas had come early. And I do not mind waiting for the next installment - good things are worth waiting for. HOWEVER, please write more. I dying to know what happens next.

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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby TSara » Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:16 pm

Rigil Kent wrote:Well, I'm also attempting to convince my Muse to let me write something other than Endeavour stuff as well, perhaps on the offhand chance I could get published (and thus, paid) for my efforts...



Oh that's exciting!

How is that going so far?

Any luck?
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby evcake » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:20 am

On his LJ, he mentions a possible Greco-Roman fantasy. Gods and goddesses, maybe? Epic battles? Smile
I don't think I've ever read a fantasy set in that world. I've seen Clash of the Titans, of course...
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby Shakabutt » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:37 am

Rigil ,i saw on your LJ two stories ,Divergent Paths and Countdown to zero hour ,i like them very very very very.....very very much ,is there any chance you'l be posting them here ? Razz
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby JadziaKathryn » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:48 am

evcake wrote:Epic battles?
If Rigil is writing it, I wouldn't be surprised. And, of course, it'd have to have some kind of twist to keep everyone guessing.
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby Rigil Kent » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:00 pm

Just a heads up for all six or seven of you fans (:lol:), CX has arranged for me to host my Endeavour series over at TrekOnline. The old angelfire url will still work ('cause I'll change it to a redirect), and the http://www.startrekendeavour.com" will also work. I believe that the site will go live this weekend (CX can say yeah or nay there, I'm not sure).

Best thing? No annoying adds or pop-ups.

As many of you know, I've mentioned on numerous occasions how I never intended to write more fics after Elysium, hence the Happy Shiny Happy ending at the end. The original ending was going to be much darker, and without that glimpse of the future. I've been toying with going back and restoring that original ending for some time now (think of it as a director's cut), and thought this might be a good time to do so.

What do you think?
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby vero3110 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:44 am

Rigil Kent wrote:Just a heads up for all six or seven of you fans (:lol:), CX has arranged for me to host my Endeavour series over at TrekOnline. The old angelfire url will still work ('cause I'll change it to a redirect), and the http://www.startrekendeavour.com" will also work. I believe that the site will go live this weekend (CX can say yeah or nay there, I'm not sure).

Best thing? No annoying adds or pop-ups.

As many of you know, I've mentioned on numerous occasions how I never intended to write more fics after Elysium, hence the Happy Shiny Happy ending at the end. The original ending was going to be much darker, and without that glimpse of the future. I've been toying with going back and restoring that original ending for some time now (think of it as a director's cut), and thought this might be a good time to do so.

What do you think?


I´ll go with it, if that was your original idea. Besides this will mean that you will keep writing more stories until we get to the happy ending, don't you?? :D

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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby blacknblue » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:12 am

Rigil Kent wrote:Just a heads up for all six or seven of you fans (:lol:), CX has arranged for me to host my Endeavour series over at TrekOnline. The old angelfire url will still work ('cause I'll change it to a redirect), and the http://www.startrekendeavour.com" will also work. I believe that the site will go live this weekend (CX can say yeah or nay there, I'm not sure).

Best thing? No annoying adds or pop-ups.

As many of you know, I've mentioned on numerous occasions how I never intended to write more fics after Elysium, hence the Happy Shiny Happy ending at the end. The original ending was going to be much darker, and without that glimpse of the future. I've been toying with going back and restoring that original ending for some time now (think of it as a director's cut), and thought this might be a good time to do so.

What do you think?


Wait just a dadburn minute here...

*suspicious*

Knowing you, the director's cut is likely to be something truly upsetting. You aren't going to come out with something similar to what you have planned for them in your Janus MU series are you?

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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby Rigil Kent » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:27 am

I think you misunderstand. As a standalone fic that does not take into account the continuation (Endeavour: Vigrid), I think that Elysium works. The end wraps everything up (a little too neatly, I think, but hey, whatever floats your boat.)

As a "prelude" for the Endeavour series, however, the final act of Elysium does not work. There's no real need to read any of the Endeavour fics 'cause you know that TnT live, that Jon Archer lives, that Hernandez purchases a piece of agricultural real estate, that Phlox survives, etc.

My original planned conclusion for Elysium took place entirely in 2156 and ended on a pretty crappy note - we're talking Hong Kong, old school John Woo ending. Enterprise was completely FUBARed, Mal & Travis were dead, the Captain and Hoshi were pretty much incapacitated, T'Pol couldn't have kids, and the Romulan War had just started. There was no hope, everyone was angsty, and the happy ending, if there was one, was nowhere in sight. As a set up for the Endeavour series, it works fantastically.

Plus, if I rewrite this scene, I can fix some minor continuity issues that I wasn't aware of until long after I wrote it (i.e. Salem Station evidently being the Pearl Harbor of the E/R War). And, of course, I can find a way to have Trip say something like "As of this moment, we are war. God help us all."
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby Shakabutt » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:18 am

Yeah i think you should change that ending ,it would encourage new readers to check out the Endeavour series .

On thing i regret being delletet from that ending was the scene were Archer is at the memorial in the rain .

The atmosfere and mental image it provides is amazing ,especially Archer's musings wich fit perfectlly with the rain and all that .

Your writing style is definatelly unique ,in a great way i mean :D
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Re: Rigil's New Endeavour thread...

Postby JadziaKathryn » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:34 am

Hmph. I'd like it better if T'Pol were able to have kids. Somehow, that just ruins any hope at all. You don't want to send your readers into clinical depression, do you? Well, maybe you do...

On another note, without that glimpse into the future, maybe Malcolm can escape Sec. 31 after all...

But I see what you mean about the stand-alone vs. series ending, and I agree.
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